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Sun Sep 03, 2023 8:56 pm
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Hello everyone,

Since I have nothing better to do (I have Chem homework due tonight), I thought I'd do a post of the AMTA competitors with the most All-American awards since 2006.

Notes
1.  I do not have access to tab summaries pre-2006. The rankings would likely be very different if I could find them.
2. Final rounds are a bit complicated. Let's take UVA's 2016 team as an example to explain my rationale. Kate Villany was a Prosecution Attorney and a Defense Witness. For the final round, she does not receive 2 additional All-Americans, but only 1 (specifically, an additional All-American Attorney award, as the closed for the Prosecution in the final round). However, Sabrina Grandhi and Frank Piacenti were locked Defense Attorneys that year and will therefore receive an additional All-American despite not competing in the final round. The moral of the story is that a competitor can only receive 1 All-American for their final round appearance, even if they were double sided.
3. Yale's All-Americans from the 2019 Championship Round were stripped for... obvious reasons. These will not be factored into the rankings. If they were, Elizabeth Bays and Adam Chase would appear on this list with 3 awards each.
4. Some of these competitors (e.g., Vanderslice) are still competing. I will put a * next to those competitors' names.
5. I have no way of knowing all the competitors in final rounds pre-circa 2012 because I have no way of accessing final round tab summaries and don't really care to go digging through round footage or 2000s Facebook posts to find out all the names. Nevertheless, if a competitor receives an All-American for their performance and is on a team in the final round, I know they receive an additional All-American for their performance in that final round. Take Kees Vanderberg from Harvard's 2006 team. Vanderberg was listed as winning 2 All-Americans on Harvard's winning team, so he gets an additional All-American, for a total of 3.
6. I am one person. If there are mistakes, let me know!

6 All-American Awards
Jonathan Hartsfield (Northwood): 2008 A18P, A17D; 2009 A20D, A18P, Final Round; 2010 A17P. Attorney

5 All-American Awards
Audrey Vanderslice (Harvard)*: 2022 W26D, A23P, Final Round; 2023 A26P, Final Round. Double Threat
Co'Relous Bryant (NYU): 2008 A20P, A18D; 2010 Final Round; 2011 W19P, Final Round. Double Threat
Deanna Oliver (NYU): 2012 W16P; 2014 W24P Wit; 2015 A23D; 2016 A41D, A40P. Double Threat
Travis Harper II (Harvard): 2021 A30D; 2022 A30D, Final Round; 2023 A24D, Final Round. Double Threat
Zach Fields (Harvard): 2012 A17P; 2014 A25D; 2015 A29D, A23P, Final Round. Attorney

4 All-American Awards
Alexandria Piacenti (UVA): 2015 A26D; 2016 Final Round; 2017 A25P, Final Round. Attorney
Allison Durkin (Yale): 2014 W23P; 2015 W22D, Final Round; 2016 Final Round. Witness
Andrew Blackwell (GWU): 2008 A19P, Final Round; 2009 A19P, Final Round. Attorney
Daniel Stern (Yale): 2015 A27P, Final Round; 2016 A36P, Final Round. Attorney
Daniel Young (UVA): 2006 A19D, Final Round; 2007 A17, Final Round. Attorney
Deniz Tunceli (UVA): 2016 W42P, Final Round; 2017 Final Round; 2018 W24D. Witness
Kate Villany (UVA): 2015 A28P; 2016 W37D, A39P, Final Round. Double Threat
Kelsey McClain (Rhodes): 2017 A28D; 2018 A25D; 2019 A31P, Final Round. Attorney
Michael Griffin (NYU): 2007 W17; 2009 W19D; 2010 W19P, Final Round. Witness
Mostafa Abdelkarim (UVA): 2006 W18P, Final Round; 2007 W18, Final Round. Witness
Nicholas Locastro (Tufts): 2010 W16D; 2011 A16P, W19D; 2012 A18P. Double Threat
Riya Lakkaraju (Emory): 2021 W33P, A32D; 2022 W23P, A23D. Double Threat
Sabrina Grandhi (UVA): 2016 Final Round; 2017 A27D, Final Round; 2018 A24D. Attorney
Sarah Stebbins (Georgia Tech): 2016 A41P; 2017 A28D; 2018 A26D, A23P. Attorney
Sydney Gaskins (UMBC): 2019 A34D; 2021 A39D, A31P, Final Round. Attorney

3 All-American Awards
Anthony Franklyn (Texas): 2007 W18; 2008 W17D; 2009 W16D. Witness
Brandon Hughes (UCLA): 2011 Final Round; 2012 W18P; 2013 W25D. Double Threat
Caroline Kitchener (Princeton): 2014 W27.5D, A25P, Final Round. Double Threat
Chris Grant (Northwood): 2018 A27D, A24P; 2019 A31P. Attorney
Doug Haefele (UPenn): 2011 A18D, A17P; 2012 A20D. Attorney
Eleanor Runde (Yale): 2015 A25D, Final Round; 2016 Final Round. Witness
Elizabeth Blair (UAB): 2006 A19D; 2007 A20, A17. Attorney
Frank Piacenti (UVA): 2016 FR; 2017 FR; 2018 A23P. Double Threat
Jasmine Stein (Wheaton): 2015 A23P; 2016 A43P, A40D. Attorney
Jeffrey Goodman (GWU): 2006 A19P, A18D; 2007 A20. Attorney
John James Snidow (Harvard): 2007 A20; 2008 A19D, A18P. Attorney
Kees Vanderberg (Harvard): 2006 A19D, W17P, Final Round. Double Threat
Kristeena Winkler (EKU): 2007 A18; 2008 A17P, A17D. Attorney
Kyle DeCamp (UCLA): 2014 A23D, Final Round; 2015 A27P. Attorney
Madeleine Heil (Brown): 2011 W18P, W16D; 2013 W25D. Witness
Meredith Clement (Rhodes): 2017 W24D; 2018 W26D, W23P. Witness
Mikhail Kleynman (Rutgers): 2017 A30P; 2018 A26D, A23P. Attorney
Miranda Beltzer (Harvard): 2010 W17P, Final Round; 2012 W17D. Witness
Natalie Murray (UMBC): 2021 W29D, Final Round; 2022 W22D. Witness
Nick Zurawski (Columbia): 2014 W23P; 2016 A43P; 2017 A25P. Double Threat
Rachel Sommers (Columbia): 2016 W44P, A39D; 2017 A29D. Double Threat
Raymond Zhu (Yale): 2015 A28D, Final Round; 2016 Final Round. Attorney
Ryan Cardenas (Irvine): 2011 W16D; 2012 W16D; 2013 W25D. Witness
Sarah Cohen (Yale): 2015 Final Round; 2016 Final Round; 2017 Final Round. Double Threat
Shahier Rahman (FSU): 2013 A25P, A24D, Final Round. Attorney
Tamara Joseph (OSU): 2021 W30D; 2022 W22D; 2023 W25D. Witness

Schools with the Most Appearances
1. UVA (7)
2. Harvard (6)
3. Yale (5)
4. NYU (3)
5. Columbia, GWU, Northwood, Rhodes, UCLA, UMBC (2 each).

Fun Facts
Sarah Cohen (Yale) is the competitor with the most consecutive final-round appearances (3). Audrey Vanderslice (Harvard) will likely tie or maybe even top Jonathan Hartsfield (Northwood) after 2024 Nats. Deanna Oliver (NYU) is the competitor that never competed in a final round with the most All-American Awards (5).


Last edited by jinri on Mon Oct 30, 2023 2:26 pm; edited 3 times in total (Reason for editing : Minor errors.)

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Thu Sep 07, 2023 2:06 am
One correction on a final round appearance. If a competitor is a double threat, they can earn 2 All-Americans by appearing in a final round. One for their final round appearance side, and the other for the other side they competed on.
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Thu Sep 07, 2023 2:10 am
This is true even if the competitor didn’t award prior to making it to the final round.
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Thu Sep 07, 2023 4:02 pm
@TrippinThruTruffles Is there any indication of AMTA giving someone two All Americans for a final round appearance? The final round tab summaries don't list if someone is double sided. For example, in 2022, they didn't list Audrey Vanderslice as being an attorney and a witness.

My thought process behind the Final Round All Americans is that they are awarded not for individual roles on a team but because the competitor was on a team that made it to the final round.

Looking at posts made by various teams, they tend not to list 2 All Americans for double sided competitors who made it to the final round. For instance, a recent Twitter post made by UVA talking about Allie Gupta (Piacenti) and Frank Piacenti listed them as having 4 and 3 All Americans, respectively, which is consistent with my calculations.
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TrippinThruTruffles wrote:One correction on a final round appearance. If a competitor is a double threat, they can earn 2 All-Americans by appearing in a final round. One for their final round appearance side, and the other for the other side they competed on.

This is true even if the competitor didn’t award prior to making it to the final round.

I don't think this is accurate. Per the rulebook, "Each student portraying an attorney or witness in the championship round shall be designated an All-American attorney or witness, respectively. Each other student on the roster of either team in the championship round shall also be designated an All-American Attorney or All-American Witness .... AMTA shall furnish a physical award to each awardee under this section." AMTA Rule 14.12(2) (Jan. 29, 2023) (emphasis added).

The text of the rule seems to say, if you actually competed in the final round, you get an AA award for the type of role you portrayed in the final round. If you're on that team but didn't get to actually compete in the final round, you also get an AA award. It's not both; the award is binary and singular for either category of student (a "portraying" student or "other student on the roster").

It also does not seem to make sense for "Double Threats" (which, to my understanding, refers to someone who competes or awards both in an attorney role and a witness role) to receive two AA awards for their team participating in a final round. Under this construction, why would a double witness not get double-sided AA witness awards? Why would a double attorney not get double-sided AA attorney awards?

jinri wrote:My thought process behind the Final Round All Americans is that they are awarded not for individual roles on a team but because the competitor was on a team that made it to the final round.

I think this is correct.

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